"The one who isn’t awakened in the true self can talk loads about it, write volumes ,introduce new concepts, start a cult, dance in circles and sing aloud. But the one who knows, becomes still just like a stone by the busy highway"
Briefs of an introductory talk with Arjun ( the questioner is represented with “question” and Arjun with “A”)
Question- Can you please tell us some thing about yourself?
A- Whom do you want to know about? The actor Arjun or the one inhabiting the body- the real Arjun?
Question- The real Arjun perhaps (one inhabiting the body)!
A- The real Arjun, can never be know, it can not be comprehended nor it can be described. The real Arjun will always be a mystery to the conscious mind, to the awareness of mankind.
Question- O.K. so we won't be able to ever know who the real Arjun is?
A- You will know the real Arjun, only when you will know your real Self!
Question- What do you mean by the real Self?
A- The one which is never born and nor will ever die, the One which is a total alien to the world of duality.
Question- Are we aliens to this world?
A- In illusion ,when we seem to be enjoying various experiences we are not aliens, but when nothing of the senses or the mind can satisfy us any longer, then we become total aliens. In reality we are truly aliens, beings from a planet totally different from the physical, mental or any other.
Question- So the world seems alien only when it doesn’t satisfy us?
A- Yes. Otherwise it’s a magical land of fairy tales, love, passion, inventions and destruction. Its a land where One power becomes many and many can become One, just in a flash. In other words it’s a Cosmic Soap-opera, where every one is so honestly playing his or her part.
Question- So what does one do , when the world seems like alien to him or her?
A- Just get back from where we have come from, or in other words, realize who we really are!
Question- That sounds very easy, is it really so, or you are making it sound like?
A- Its easier than to become a celebrity , a millionaire, or running a successful business, as it primarily lies in our own hands.
Question- Could you please explain the last part of the sentence?
A- We came here by our will and we will get back by only our will.
Question-Then what’s the role of Guru's, Masters and Religions?
A- They are all representatives of our real Self. They can only show the direction, its we who have to make a choice.
Once we have made the choice all Masters would materialize at our doorsteps to guide us in what ever way we may need help.
Question- What about Babaji and Mataji?
A- Babaji represents are true Self ( the Purusha aspect), and Mataji represents the Shakti(Prakriti aspect ) which has created this world and owns it fully. Evert inch of the duality belongs to her. Its by her power that we move our limbs, digest our food or even think. Babaji is special!
Question- Why?
A- Since Babaji has never taken physical birth he can't be associated or linked to any sort of conditioning of physical world i.e. to any region, religion, guru lineage, country, culture, race or sex. In fact, He is the perfect blend of all energies, and its very hard for the ego to put him (or IT) in one box or the other. Because of this characteristic of Babaji, he has guided humanity since the creation started. Babaji was when the creation started, he is very much present now as we talk and will be their till the destruction of this world.
Question- But prior to Paramhansa Yogananda's book "Autobiography of a Yogi" no one knew about Mahavatar Babaji and Kriya Yoga. In fact organization started by Yoganadaji claim ownership of the great guru.
A- Did Babaji exist prior to Autobiography of a yogi? its just like asking if the Brahman ( the real Self ) existed prior to publishing of Autobiography of a Yogi. Yes, prior to publishing of the this great book, Babaji was know to a selected few by various names and forms. But after the book, we have given Babaji an uniformity so to say, in terms of his name and form. With this uniformity (of form and name ) Babaji appears initially to the seeker, but when the seeker is ready for higher initiations, Babaji comes to him or her in various forms.
Most of the times the seeker will not know at that moment that the person he is interacting with is Babaji itself. However, their are certain signs and hints which the great guru drops during such experiences. The intellectual memory of these subtle signs helps the ego to recognize the presence of the Great Master.
The real Self was, is and will always be. So is the beings in illusion ( they were, are and will be). As long as this cosmic drama will continue so long will Babaji and Mataji guide seekers to know who they really are.
You see how cleverly the human mind and attachments work? Even our true Self is given a lineage, path and ownership. The one who is beating constantly in all our hearts, can we single IT out and club it into one path, organization or line of Gurus? Can any human being or organization patronize ether, fire, elements or universal power? If so, then are entitled to patronize Mahavatar Babaji too!
Question- And what about Lahiri Mahasaya?
A- Lahiri Mahasaya represents the power of the Holy Ghost as in Christian tradition, or the Shesh Nag as described in Hindu scriptures. Lahiri Mahasaya is always accompanying Babaji and Mataji. Babaji and Mataji are irreparable, almost like two sides of one coin. Where ever you find Babaji, be assured that Mataji is near too. And when ever you find Mataji, be assured that Babaji is near by too. Lahiri Mahasaya's part can be played by any being on earth who is attuned with Masters and is awakened in the real Self. In fact any being who realizes his or her true nature becomes another Lahiri Mahasya.
Question- So are you playing the part of Lahiri Mahasaya?
A- Any realized being plays that part, their is no choice here its almost natural. It is as organic as when the fruit ripens, it automatically drops to the ground.
Questions- And what about meditation, healing, yoga and other techniques?
A- They are instruments which help us in unraveling our identity, but apart from that they are just nothing, as they belong to the world of duality. In the awakened state they have no meaning or significance. All things of this world have to drooped in this world.
Question- What do you mean “ all things of this world have to be drooped in this world”?
A- Nothing of the world of sense, mind and intellect belongs to our true Self. If we want to be awakened in our true nature then, we will have to drop all things of this world, as it’s the identification with sensations, the creativity of the mind, the reasoning of the intellect and bondage of emotions which tie us to our role and thereby we live in illusion.
Question- What ever you are suggesting us to drop are very close to us, in fact they are our identity !
A- Yes its true. But its also true that you are not your senses, nor your mind, intellect or emotions. You are some thing else. Use an effective technique to quite the mind and relax the body. And then go deeper in to inquiring into “who am I?” where am I” “ what am I’. These three muula (central) questions have no answers, they are just questions.
Questions- If these three questions have no answer, then why should we inquire into it?
A- They don’t have answers in the language of the mind. The answers to the three muula questions, cannot be understood by the ego, nor by any sort of awareness or consciousness.
Q- Then?
A- Their answers will originate as one discover his true Self. And when one is awakened in the true self. One is totally unable to share with any other in the language of the mind, what the answers to the three muula queries are.
Question- Ha… ha… ha… so when one can explain, he or she doesn’t know and when one knows he or she can can’t explain?
A- Yes! That’s the nature of this cosmic soap opera. The one who isn’t awakened in the true self can talk a lot about it, he or she can write volumes of books , dance in circles and sing aloud , but the once who know, become still like the stone by the busy highway.
Question- By this time we were sure, we will not be able to know the real Arjun, in this life time (unless we find our true self) let alone this sort interview, so why not know the actor Arjun?
Physical Background:
Arjun was born in the year 1978, in the hill state of Jammu and Kashmir, Northern India, to a modern Brahmin family. Living in various parts of a country which has more than 29 different languages and 122 odd dialects, gave an ideal opportunity to appreciate the cultural and ethnic diversity of the ancient land. As the ant picks and separates sugar from sand, so did Arjun’s parents in selecting and internalizing the positive and spiritually uplifting values into family practices. He graduated in Economics from Loyola College, University of Madras. For higher education he traveled to Russia and later to England, where he obtained Masters in Philosophy(M.Phil) from University of Sussex. Early in life, Arjun consciously decided to involve himself in activities, which created social-wealth and well-being. Subsequently after the Post-Gradution, he joined Non-Government Organisations (NGO’s) and specialized in disaster management. His most recent assignment was with a UN (United Nation’s) organization focusing on co-ordination during humanitarian emergencies.
Spiritual Background:
Arjun’s earliest initiation in this body was at the age of 5, when his grandfather, who was a vanprastha (monk-hood for a householder entering Swami order) and a practitioner of Vedic tradition, initiated him into the Gayatri mantra. In later years, Arjun was greatly inspired by the pious lives of his maternal grandparents and his mother, who initiated him in to Sakthi tradition. Once on a pilgrimage along with his family to the sacred shrine of Sabrimala in the southern state of Kerela, he was graced by the mystical touch of Mahavatar Babaji. Later, through the instrumentality of his father, at the age of 15, Arjun was linked with Paramhansa Yoganandaji and by 21 years got initiated in to the Naam tradition of Sant Kabir Das and Sai tradition. However, it was not until the age of 26, that the link with Kriya Masters was revitalized by venerable saint Lahiri Mahasaya in the holy town of Puri in eastern India. What followed then on was an intense period of spiritual enfoldment, which peaked with the darshan (divine appearance) and initiation by Mahavatar Babaji at various sites in Elagiri ( Tamil Nadu), Varanasi(Benaras) Delhi and Himalayas. Babaji guided Arjun to uncover the “I” which is form, formless and beyond.............Since, he travels and shares the love and wisdom of the immortal ‘I’. Concept and practice of Purna Kriya Yoga, Sri Vidya and Muula Tantra are shared with receptive seekers. On Babaji and Mataji's wish the sharing of knowledge of the Self is materially free for all.
Om Babaji,Om Maa
